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So I want to welcome Olivier.

Yes.

To our show and he is from Keepser Group. Is that correct? I pronounced that right.

Yup. That's correct.

So I'm thinking what you're going to be talking about here is some sort of Bitcoin or coin type vault.

We call it a cold wallet.

Yeah.

That's the name of our product Keepser Cold Wallet. And in there, you can store obviously, cryptocurrency keys and all the information you need to do the transactions, but also your passcode, your credit card, your access code. And so that not only you can do things for the cryptocurrency domain, but you can also do things like e-commerce or connecting to your website, consulting your accounts, and so on.

So tell us about the tech and what, what is actually involved in syncing stuff, and so forth.

Yeah. So the product has two pieces, one piece that stores the data, and this piece has no battery, no microprocessor, no software, and it's storing things for 30 years. It's not detectable. And you pair that through the contactless process with the application that you can download. And that's your private data that are fully encrypted, that you through a coupling here like, showing that, not sure showing that the right way. But basically, you can see that I have entered, website credit card number, crypto-assets information, and then it's defined how you can use it, under which criteria of security and you can define for each of them. Different level of security, it's fully programmable by the user or by the administrator if your company and so that this product is you can define, for example, geo-fencing, meaning that can define that I can use this code only here, within few meters, or only in Las Vegas.

Right?

Something like that. Yeah, I can define that. I can use it only if I connect to a given network, or obviously, I can put passwords on this kind of thing. And many older security criteria, like scanning a barcode on my Coca-Cola can work in my fridge; that could be my password, my way of accessing that. So anyway, we have built that up. This product has won itself the product award for the CES Innovation this year. But before that, I mean, with a partner technology partner that is called Freemindtronic that is doing some of the IP that we have embedded in the product. They have also won the security award under Trump's entry for 2021.

I think the question I always ask is, okay, let's say I put my crypto passwords, passcodes, all that on there, and I lose that.

Okay, so that's a good question, obviously. We sell with this product, another product that we call a companion that we call a Safe Clone, where you can instantaneously either clone or backup your card. So you carry this card with you all day. And you put the other backup card, Safe Clone, somewhere safe.

Somewhere safe.

At home or-

Safety deposit box or wherever it may be.

Exactly. And so when you do cryptocurrency business, you have to register your what we call the seed phrase.

Right.

Complex code to recover your cryptos.

Yep.

And usually, we ask you to put that on paper or something like that. Here, you don't have to have that. You can store it on the backup card, and then you have it's safe, and you can have instant recovery through the application. No, no. You store it in. And the way you can store it is that you generate, for example, a QR code with a receipt phrase, you just scan it with your phone, and it's stored in your cart.

So that's interesting. You're not actually storing the passcode. Your recovery passcode is in the device. You still have to keep that as a physical written down all those sequences of numbers or whatever it may be Interesting.

The thing that is important is the data stay on the card, is never stolen from the phone, and is never stored in the cloud. We have obviously full encryption there. And all the communication the links have fully secured and encrypted. And by the way, it's a patented technique that we use.

So if I have crypto stored on the card, and I have the backup card, and I sell some crypto or transfer, you know, back into an exchange or wherever it may be. What happens with the other card? You'd have to sync that?

So if you change things, and you have like how this rush backup, yeah, you have to sync up from time to time, but it's very easy. You can do it either selectively one by one if you wish. But usually, you just have a clone function. So you just replicate and so on.

Gotcha. Available now or what? Do you have- You have questions, Chris?

I was gonna say the function that I loved was be-, and it's kind of like the passcode, USB thumb drives, where you can store all kinds of pass stuff encrypted. But what I love is the function where it can be recognized by your location. So you could literally use this in a business capacity, that kind of stuff where you can only access that stuff once you've come onto the job site.

That's right, or-

This function is very useful for the enterprise. Yeah, so in this card, and the way we manage it, there is the administrator domain and the user domain. The administrator can hide things from the user if necessary, so if your enterprise as an administrator.

Sure.

You can give that to your employee. So they can connect to thesensitive data through VPN, for example, for the enterprise.

Yeah.

And at home, we can define this code will only work in your home location, and you connect to the VPN of the enterprise or the sensitive servers. And the user does not even know the password, the ID, and so on. They just scan the card through their phone. And then it automatically connects through on your, on their laptop, and so on.

So this is, you know, this is a, it's basically a geo-locked NFC device almost. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, really cool. And I mean, can you set it up where whenever you go to use a password that it sends you double authentication or anything like that?

Well, I mean, you can, we can use all the functions on the phone, in terms of security, and so on. And we leverage so you can leverage fingerprint or facial recognition, or this kind of thing, or, and you can program it. So today, we are just, we have implemented different ingredients in terms of technology, we are just talking, the touching the surface of the value use case. We have a lot of people asking us, like what you say, Oh, what about doing this or that?

Right.

And yes, we can, obviously that requires some software developed.

Sure.

But the beauty of this is that as we make things evolve, interview of use case, control it to a solution, where you this is, for example, a USB dongle, where you load the software on the USB. When you do that, you increase the services and so on. Mechanically, your security goes down, dropping, and you have to compensate for that. Yeah, here the data, there is no software, there's no battery, there is nothing.

You've got pins inside of the USB that can get frazzled, though, and all kinds of things.

So that's constant security. And we make the software evolve. So we are future-proofed because of that.

Is this available today?

It is available today. So we have another product, and we show people you can order it on the website. And we will do a worldwide launch around the March timeframe where we are finishing all the paperwork and the return for export control and so on.

Yeah, that export control on encrypted devices is painful. I know.

Well, actually, the encryption is done through the phone.

Oh, so that helps.

So this is a storage device that is controlled, and where we have a patented way of managing the communication between the two. But there is no real. If I send that to you, it's empty.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You are in control of putting things here and so on. But this is no encryption engine.

What is the price point going to be on that? Any idea?

So we have a different model in different of capacity and different features, whether you use crypto or just as passcode management. So it's between everything between a little bit more than 200 euro to 600 with a bundle with backup code. And so, depending on the model that you want, you pay more or less, but it's a one-time fee. Okay, there is no subscription. Again, nothing on the phone. Nothing in the cloud.

Yeah.

Wow.

So the app is free. You just download it.

So I always ask this question. It's always a sensitive topic. I have the card.

Yup.

You go out of business.

So yeah, that's, that's a good question. And actually, so the app itself, you have it, so you can use it, and so on. The only thing is if we go out of business, which, hopefully, it's unlikely.

Right. Right.

We will not make the new feature.

New features.

But the app is there. It will be on the-.

So you could get the data off if you have to transfer it to another device? I don't, you know, I asked that question. Because it's something, you got to think about in today's world no matter what. Yeah, hopefully, you're gonna be in business for, you know, a long, long time.

We love it too.

But it's, yeah, it's something you have to ask. Thank you so much. This is fantastic.

That is really, really cool.

I know your activity. Your Booth was busy because I walked by

We were. Yeah. We're quite busy demonstrating saints, and it works great.

Yeah. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming out. I appreciate it.

Well, thanks for your time.

Let everybody know where they can go to pre-order. To find out more.

Okay. So pre-order is on the keepser.com website. www.keepser.com. And you have a button for ordering. And that's it. And it's an e-commerce website. And down the road, we'll link to distributors as we grow and spread these around.

Sorry, Well, it's Keepser. K-E-E-P-S-E-R.com is the website, so definitely check it out. So thank you so much for coming on.

Really cool.

Really cool.

Yeah, thank you very much.

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