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Alright, so I've got Luca Nestola. What? No? Oh, Holger Hendrichs with the. I'm so sorry, With GreenTEG AG. So Holger, welcome to the show and tell us about what you guys are doing here with Core.

Holger Hendrichs. Yeah, thanks for hosting me. Core is the first non-invasive temperature sensor. And it's used actually mainly for endurance sports. Because in endurance sports, here is the problem. You're active. You're getting hot, but at a certain point, your power is actually going down. Because your body is investing more into cooling than empowering your muscles. And with monitoring it, you'll know at which stage you are.

That's interesting. So if you're doing a team sport or team. You can tell the rider, the runner, maybe it's time to back off a little bit.

Exactly. So we actually launched it a year ago at the Tour de France with only one team. And then actually at the upcoming Giro d'Italia already, like four other teams were using it. And then this last year 2021, Tour de France. Out of 23 teams, 19 were using it. And it was even used also during the Olympic Games. Because they are in Tokyo, you had a very hot and humid climate. And people wanted to actually train at home for this hotter climate, and then adapt to the heat.

So what has been? You know, obviously, we're getting real deep in the weeds here. But on the Tour de France, what did, how did that from a rule standpoint? Did you have to get this approved to be used as a monitoring device?

Yes. So that's approved by the UCI. And it's actually. Yeah. You can directly see it on the bike computer. Only the rider. And so it's not getting transmitted to the.

Transmitted to the team. So it's only by the rider. So the rider has to make the adjustment

Exactly.

But you know, sometimes the riders between a rock and a hard place, he's got to keep pushing. So he's gonna know that he's, you know, he's going to be potentially giving up more energy than he should so. So what is it actually? Is it a stick mount or?

So actually, usually the rider, they put it directly on the heart rate monitor strip.

Okay.

But I was using it today with the double-sided medical tape. So if you want to use it, let's say every day or for sleeping

Sure.

If you also like to see like how your temperature drops at night when you use this double-sided medical tape.

So what then besides sports are people using this for?

It's a good question. So we see actually also interested from the patient monitoring side. And during the corona crisis, we got from the FDA is Emergency Use Authorization. So whenever you get a fever, you want to know like, "Okay, I must still like above a certain threshold, or is it getting better."

So it was one of those things, were they using this for home monitoring or actually in-hospital monitoring of the patients.

Right now, mostly actually, for remote monitoring at home.

Remote monitoring.

But we have some clinical trials where people using it already on the COVID station in Switzerland. So we are based in Switzerland. That's where our home market is. But for sports, we see actually directly a very international demand for this.

It's very surprising that this is the first. It seems like this would have been something that would have been on the market for a while. So it's kind of surprising to me you guys are the first on the market with this.

So the magic, actually, we are producing a so-called heat flux sensor. Very small. It's not a temperature sensor. It's a so-called thermal energy transfer sensor. So what we are measuring is, what is the heat coming out of your body. And we say actually, as a reference is a skin temperature sensor and an algorithm. We can then detect what's really inside. And that's why we can use it for sports. Because for sports, you have a lot of cooling. You have wind. You have sun.

That's right.

And a normal temperature sensor would not get the exact temperature.

That's right because it would be reactionary from either the sun or the wind versus getting it internally. I Gotcha. Very, very, very, very interesting. So what is normal? Is this a subscription model? What's the retail on this? What is the? What's the pricing?

So pricing is $270 and there's no subscription with it. You get directly access to the app and we also have a cloud. We have third-party connectivity with Garmin, for example, overall. So you can see it on your watch or by computer.

Right. Very, very cool. So it's called Core. Core Body Temperature Monitor. Where can they find more information about this? Where can they go on the web to find this?

Our web page is corebodytemp.com. And there you see all information, social media, Instagram, and Facebook

Available here in the United States now?

Yes. We actually shipped from Pennsylvania. And, yeah. It will reach the customer in two days.

Will they find it on Amazon?

And this is my temperature in celsius.

My Oh. Will they find this on Amazon by chance? Or?

No. We're not on Amazon.

Okay. So they'd have to go to the website at this time. All right, outstanding. Well, Holger, thank you for coming and showing this off. And for those of you sports enthusiasts out there, or maybe in the health field. Lots of options on this. So thank you much. Appreciate you coming.

Thank you. Have a good day. Bye-bye.

Thank you.

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