MACA's revolutionary carcopter: The future of flight @ CES 2022 - Show Notes

MACA's revolutionary carcopter: The future of flight @ CES 2022

Thursday Feb 24, 2022 (00:12:48)


For decades, we've been promised flying cars. In The Jetsons, we were told that flying cars were not new and had been around for years. But, the show takes place in 2062 - only 40 years from now. So, where are the flying cars? We've seen a few at CES in the past few years, but MACA is poised to make them far more interesting and usable.

Who is MACA?

Maca is a new company that started with an idea that appeared in Airbus in 2018. The idea was a flying car with hydrogen as an energy vector. The prototype was being developed for three years inside of Airbus before the founders decided to move the project outside of the company and into a new company at the end of 2020. The concept consists of using this aircraft in the racing environment.

Given that there are fewer constraints in the racing environment, MACA can develop the technology at a faster rate. The hope is to use this technology in future flying taxis. Mr. Thierry de Boisvilliers also mentioned that this concept will accelerate social acceptance. He supports this claim by giving the example of how cars were used for racing in the past. Then eventually, cars were accepted by society.

MACA is poised to revolutionize the flying car industry with its upcoming release of the S11. Unlike other flying cars that rely on combustion engines, MACA's carcopter uses clean-burning hydrogen-based fuel cells for longer flight times and green energy sustainability. With a focus on speed, safety, and sustainability, the company is leading the charge into the future of flight!

How does it work?

The MACA carcopter is a hybrid that uses racecar technology integration. It has four rotors that provide lift and two rear-facing propellers to provide thrust. The carcopter runs on hydrogen fuel cells, which gives it a longer flight time than other flying cars. Additionally, the MACA Carcopter is designed with safety in mind. It features an autopilot mode as well as backup systems that will keep you safe even if one of the rotors fails.

The MACA Carcopter has a top speed of 200 km/h and a flight time of 45 minutes. It can carry up to 400 kg, making it perfect for small cargo or passenger transport. And, like other electric vehicles, the MACA carcopter produces zero emissions!

So mark your calendars - 2022 is going to be an exciting year for flying cars! MACA is leading the charge with its innovative S11 model that uses clean-burning hydrogen fuel cells and racecar technology integration. With a focus on speed, safety, and sustainability, MACA is paving the way for the future of flight! Stay tuned for more information about this revolutionary product.


So what are you waiting for? 2022 is going to be an exciting year for flying cars, and MACA is leading the charge with its innovative S11 model! Head to the website for more information about this revolutionary product - you won't want to miss out on the future of flight!

Interview by Todd Cochrane of Geek News Central and Christopher Jordan of The Talking Sound.

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Christian Hernandez

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Christian Hernandez graduated from Iowa State with a degree in Software Engineering. He has had experience working on firmware for SSDs for Intel. Soon, he will be an Associate Software Engineer for Lockheed Martin. Christian enjoys running, the gym, and spending time with his family during his free time.


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Todd Cochrane (00:27)

I have to come in and our next guest is wearing a, appears a flight suit. Now when I was in the US Navy our flight suits looked a little different but all flight suits are just about the same. So what Maca future is in the air so is it theory? How do you pronounce your name?

Thierry de Boisvilliers (00:48)

Siri? Siri? Okay, so morning.

Todd Cochrane (00:50)

Good morning. So tell us about Maca.

Thierry de Boisvilliers (00:53)

Well, I'm the President and co-founder of Maca. Maca is a young company created at the end of 2020 with an idea which appeared in Airbus. In 2018, we decided to create a flying car using hydrogen as an energy vector. So we spent three years developing this idea inside the company. And at the end of 2020, we decided to remove the project from Airbus, and to continue as an independent company as a startup. So the idea is to use this aircraft in the racing environment to get less constrained regulation. When you fly in a racing environment, of course, you have less regulations. And you can go faster when you develop the technology just like Formula One, which is a good way to pull the technology and to use this technology on future costs. So we intend to do the same, develop the technology of hydrogen, and put it later on future flying taxis. And what also is interesting in the concept is that you can accelerate the social acceptance of people of future flying taxis because, you know, 120 years ago, everything started with race. The cars started with race, right? Aviation the same all those races started in France. This is why we want to do the same for flying taxis. And we really believe that it will accelerate this social acceptance. So we are currently we flew a search scale model in 2019, to validate the architecture, to be sure that everything is okay. And we are currently developing the manufacturing the scale one, which will fly at the end of this year. But basic scale one, meaning that we're going to use batteries at the beginning. We won't put the pilot on Bob, it will be remote this year. And then we need money. Of course we are here at the CES to find investors and not only visibility but also investors to go forward. Meaning that after this, this demonstrator, we need to integrate the pilot on board to certify the vehicle to put the hydrogen to certify the vehicle. So there are some challenges. But of course, we are ready to do that, because we have a team of around 10 engineers with us who specialize in all the different domains of flying cars. And we believe that in one year, we will be ready to go to the second step. And to make the first racing by 2024. First even and first racing. In this project, you know, we have two different projects inside day one projector, the vehicle itself and the racing concept because there is nothing existing Right? Right. Right. So we have to create this ecosystem around the vehicle. So this ecosystem, we're working with a formula of former Formula Formula One organizers, you know, so those people are very passionate about the idea and we are working with them to define the rules of race, how to promote this race and how to create this new veto racing. So this is a exciting To build the future, to see that the future is India,

Todd Cochrane (05:06)

you know, they, if you think about air racing or airplane racing that still exists today, it's still a it's a it's a very viable sport. So is this going to be more like man drone racing, right? Or is that you're trying to define it as a car and air car? But what will be your, what are your ideas? This is initially to be a one seater, and then it'll expand so that it'll actually replicate an actual air taxi, or what's the kind of the concept behind that?

Thierry de Boisvilliers (05:44)

Yeah, beyond that. It's quite different from arrays existing today, because arrays existing today, you know, our planes take off from a base, or they make a show at 50 100 meters from the ground. So it's quite high. They go back to the base, our philosophy is different. We want to create a new race, because we want to , we can take off behind the public share, we can make the race, but very low, because we don't want to fly high, just like an airplane or a helicopter. Right. The idea is really to be close to the spectators, people. So we intend to fly low, and to make the show, and then to come back in front of the people. And everybody can see the pilot can see the aircraft. This is a new philosophy. It's not an airplane, which is going through the year. Right, right. Right. Right at the pilots. Right. Right, right. It's something new, this is why we had to invent the rules. We had to invent the different philosophies of this race. And that will be quite different from what is existing today.

Todd Cochrane (07:04)

Yeah, it sounds kind of fun.

Christopher Jordan (07:06)

It sounds really cool. And I've been hugely into watching the Drone Racing League for the last couple years. And just one curiosity, with hydrogen fuel cells and cars, things like that. One of the big issues has, of course, been refueling, distance, all that kind of stuff. What kind of thrust ratio are you talking about with this? What kind of speeds are you able to get even with your modeling right now? And what's the hope? Distance? Because of course, some races like Indy races, you know, things like that can be the equivalent of hundreds of miles. Yeah, formula and all that kind of good stuff.

Thierry de Boisvilliers (07:43)

Well, in terms of speed, we made the calculation with our, during our studies, we expect 250 kilometers per hour, meaning that 150 mph, right? This is the race expected race speeds, sorry, the hydrogen, of course, it's a challenge to integrate the I don't need in the scanner for fakra of course, or without discussing with the regulation or regulation to see how to do that until how to certify this kind of aircraft. And anyway, if we use batteries, the endurance is five minutes, and we cannot go further. Regarding the technology of batteries today. Perhaps tomorrow we could improve. Right? Right. And today.

Todd Cochrane (08:34)

Is still not getting incrementally better. Exactly. Right.

Thierry de Boisvilliers (08:37)

But hydrogen is different. We can expect 15 minutes of 1520 minutes of endurance with hydrogen. So at the same waiter, this is why it's clearly possible to make a race. Yeah. 15 minutes, 20 minutes when you see the drone racing, it's a few minutes. Exactly, exactly. And here, it's clearly not drone racing. It's a pilot on board, right? And it's really a Formula One, flying Formula One, right. So that's another philosophy and, and what we want to do also is to, to mix with this kind of the vehicle it's possible to mix the reality and augmented reality and this could be very fun to spectacle, you know, not just-

Todd Cochrane (09:35)

He can be in the seat with them. Absolutely. That's

Christopher Jordan (09:38)

Exactly what I was about. Yeah.

Thierry de Boisvilliers (09:40)

Instead of turning around, you know, the race track. You can imagine something different, right with augmented reality and yeah, some gates, yeah.

Christopher Jordan (09:54)

Same way they do NASCAR with the driver camera and everything else. Absolutely.

Todd Cochrane (09:58)

But also it's not necessarily Turning left the entire time returning right? It is a natural course.

Christopher Jordan (10:03)

Of goals to hit things that you might miss along.

Thierry de Boisvilliers (10:08)

Exactly. And this is what we are defining today, the rules for this new race with a special specialist of Formula One, because it's not our business. Sure, sure. Even. So we rely on people who know how to do that.

Todd Cochrane (10:25)

It's very, very exciting. So where can people go to find more information? Is it ma Or what's the website?

Thierry de Boisvilliers (10:33)

I'm a ca Ma-ca.

Todd Cochrane (10:37) Exactly. Go check it out. So you're looking for investors, you're looking for folks that participate and be enthusiast in the technology?

Thierry de Boisvilliers (10:45)

Exactly. We. So this is why we are here. We are looking for investors. We met lots of partners here. Awesome. Lots of people are already to help us. In France, we decided to create a subsidiary in the US a few months ago. So we have a subset here with a CEO, which is Irina, in front of us. She's invited to lots of events, automotive events, fun events, lots of forums, discussions, and so on. So this is very interesting for us to have a footprint in the USA, because we have to spread our idea to communicate to promote our concept in your country, because here, we perfectly know that you like those kinds of shows. Yeah, this is your site. Yeah. Anyway,-

Todd Cochrane (11:40)

Yeah. But Formula One is growing here. It's getting more popular. Yeah. The tracking. That's right.

Christopher Jordan (11:47)

Yeah, two, three miles away from Formula One. So-

Todd Cochrane (11:50)

Anything related is good. Absolutely. And this goes into that. Yeah, it comes out into the normal world tunes. Yeah. Well, thank you for coming. Yeah.

Thierry de Boisvilliers (12:00)

Thank you for coming. It

Todd Cochrane (12:02)

It was a pleasure. Yeah, absolutely. Appreciate it. Good luck, and we look forward to seeing what you bring next year. Yeah. Outstanding.

Erin Hurst (12:11)

TPN CES 2022 coverage is executive produced by Michele Mendez. Technical Directors are Kurt Corless and Adam Barker. Associate producers are Nancy Ertz and Maurice McCoy. Interviews are edited by Jo Mini. Hosts are Marlo Anderson, Todd Cochrane, Scott Ertz, Christopher Jordan, Daniele Mendez, and Allante Sparks. Las Vegas studio provided by HC Productions. Remote studio provided by PLUGHITZ Productions. This has been Tech Podcasts Network Production, copyright 2022.

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